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29 June 2007 @ 09:58 pm
Matt & Harriet  
Yeah, I know this is technically the Danny & Jordan place, but I want a sensible discussion here.

This morning as I was driving to work, I caught the tail end of the Radio 2 Pause for Thought slot. This morning's speaker was a Bhuddist chap. He said that the Bhudda taught that God treats everyone the same, believers and non-believers alike, not favouring anyone in particular. Then he & Sir Terence had a discussion about this. Terry said that some golfer who just won the Masters said "My God was with me today", to which his thought was "OK, so was God ignoring everyone else so you could win a game of golf".

This has always been my problem with Matt & Harriet (and a lot of real world people). He's an atheist Jew and she's an evangelical Christian (I'm leaving their political leanings out of this). Danny and everyone else can see that they are right for each other in so many ways and it's clear that they are each deeply attracted to and in love with the other. But neither of them is able to get past the other's religious views or non-views.

Harry *has* to keep pushing Matt about this. OK, at first, when they were getting to know each other, I think it was important that she tell him what she believes. But after 8 years, they should have come to a place where they could compromise and each let the other hold their own views without constantly bringing things up.

I get the impression that this may be the way they finally ended up, although it wasn't said explicitly. But *why* did it take them 8 years to get there. Even if Matt thought they couldn't be together if he was her boss, they didn't have to *constantly* bicker about it.

Anyway, that's just my take and I'm happy that they are together now, even though I could have done without some of the last 9 months of having my nose rubbed in it.
Diana Dru Botsford: k&r2digitalred93 on June 30th, 2007 03:13 pm (UTC)
I'll nibble...

Firstly, in Harriet's defense, Matt is as guilty of this ongoing argument from hell as she is. He brought up the subject frequently, taking great glee in stabbing at her beliefs.

Secondly, living in the bible belt, I can't tell you how many people I know who are like Harriet. Incredibly smart, bright people who feel that unless they have fulfilled their daily dose of proselytizing to me, they're guilty of a sin.

So yeah - it WAS annoying and I know it turned some people off. Since I'm an agnostic Jew living in Crazy Christian Land, I appreciated the argument.

But then I honestly believe that as crazy as the Christians are, they aren't any crazier than the rest of us.
Fennyhooloovoo_42 on June 30th, 2007 09:22 pm (UTC)
Yes, I agree Matt kept the argument going all the way through, too. I suppose it could be one of those chicken and egg things. Neither would let it drop, so the other kept it going rather than back down.

I live in an area that's a hive of evangelical Christians called "the Jesus Army". They stand outside the local shops and talk to people. I've had conversations before along the lines of "You have *no* idea what my beliefs are, so why do you need to tell me yours?". But, no, they are no crazier than the rest of us, just more in your face.